Using the Loop Recorder in External Mixer Mode

This tutorial explains how to setup Traktors' audio routing, if you want to use the loop recorder in external mixing mode.

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Overview

When you are using external mixing mode and wish to use the loop recorder, you need to route the output of your mixer into the loop recorder; otherwise there is no signal that Traktor can record. This is done on Preferences/Input Routing. The only recording source Traktor offers in external mixing mode is EXT. This recording source is connected to the Input FX Send (Ext) channel of Traktor.

To get the recorded audio from the Loop Recorder back to you mixer, you need to route the output of the Loop Recorder to one of the input channels of your audio interface. This is done on Preferences/Output Routing. Traktor sends the audio of the loop recorder to the Output FX Return channel.

If you are using a mixer with a dedicated Send/Return bus (like the Pioneer DJM-800 or the Allen&Heath Xone:92), connect the Send/Return connectors to your audio interface.

Pioneer DJM 800, rear
Pioneer DJM-800, rear with Send and Return connectors

Alen&Heath Xone:92, rear
Allen&Heath Xone:92, rear with Send(Aux) and Return connectors

 

Example 1: Traktor Audio 10 - Using a Five Channel Soundcard

Things are easy when using an audio interface with 5 stereo channels, like the Traktor
Audio 10: You can use one stereo channel for each deck, and the fifth channel for the loop recorder. The Input Routing and Output Routing in Traktor needs to be configured as shown in the following figures.

Output Routing with Traktor Audio 10
Output Routing with Traktor Audio 10

Input Routing with Traktor Audio 10
Input Routing with Traktor Audio 10

 

Example 2: Audio 8 DJ - Using a Four Channel Soundcard

But even when using an audio interface with 4 stereo channels, like Audio 8 DJ, it is possible to use the loop recorder.

Since Traktor 2 one can route the output of more than one deck to the same soundcard channel. When you use two track decks and two sample decks, for example, route the output of the two sample decks to the same channel of your audio interface. On the mixer one channel fader is used to control the volume of all eight sample slots.

Routing Schema

To get more control over the sample slots, use another controller, like a cheap Korg NanoKontrol 2, that has plenty of faders and knobs, or the upcoming Xone:K2 for example. With a very simple mapping you are able to set the volume of the individual slots.

 

With the Audio 8 DJ the Input Routing and Output Routing in Traktor needs to be configured as shown in the following figures.

Output Routing with Audio 8 DJ
Output Routing with Audio 8 DJ.
Note that Sample Decks C and D use the same channel of the A8DJ.

 

Input Routing with Audio 8 DJ
Input Routing with Audio 8 DJ

Tips: Avoid Feedback Loop in 2.0.3 and New Bug in 2.1.1

If you are using Traktor 2.0.3 make sure, that the D/W knob of the Loop Recorder is set to 100% wet, otherwise you will get a feedback loop.

This design was changed in Traktor 2.1.1. The label of the D/W knob is now Gain, but it behaves like a combination of Dry/Wet and Gain. If you set the knob to 0.0dB, you can still hear the dry/input signal of the loop recorder, and not only the wet/recorded sginal. You need to set the Gain knob to +10dB to get rid of the loop recorder signal. This looks like a bug too me and I would expect that it will be fixed in one of the upcoming Traktor versions.

You may also like: Mapping the Traktor Loop Recorder

 

Author: Rainer G: Haselier
Published: October 17, 2011

 

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13 Comments

Chris Jennings
wrote on October 19, 2011 at 00:16
Great stuff. I think it's worth pointing out that if you have a Traktor certified mixer like the DNX-1600 all you have to do is assign the channels to the appropriate input and outputs.
 Rainer G. Haselier (admin) says:
Thanks for adding this, Chris.
 
futureGlue
wrote on October 19, 2011 at 15:11
Thanks Rainer for all the years of tips!

I guess I have my homework for the day. :)
 Rainer G. Haselier (admin) says:
My pleasure. Getting that kind of feedback tells me I shall continue :)
 
BuDev
wrote on October 23, 2011 at 00:01
hi, wie immer danke für deine guides. aber wird es noch ein kurzes tutorial bzgl. loop recorder und xone 4d geben? da findet man im netz leider gar nichts zu.
 
jason
wrote on November 22, 2011 at 17:49
problem comes in when you have 4 timecode signals, in which this routing wouldn’t work. I’m trying to use the xone 4D with 4xcdj and so far I have to give up a channel bc the 5th set of inputs on the mixer are digital
 
youraveragenoob
wrote on November 27, 2011 at 12:54
endlich hab ichs gerallt... danke
 
meow
wrote on December 14, 2011 at 07:08
i was looking for this for long time how come noone talks about xone 92 and audio 10 dj i bought it the same day it came out i guess i had to wait until now to see some tutorial like this about the send and returns and traktor also i want to know how the efx work on ther

traktor pro 2 macbook pro
1 kontroller x1
maschine
xone 92
audio 10 dj

am havin problems when controlling ableton with maschine latest version 1.7 .1

the lights stop blinking and after a while
 
kryptonite
wrote on December 16, 2011 at 00:49
What kind of cables would I use to connect my DJM-800 to the Audio 10? TRS to RCA? I've never seen those before!
 
Angelo
wrote on December 19, 2011 at 16:21
Hello,

Would like to get some help please...

I'm using a Denon dn-X1600 and 2 dn-S3700 in hybride mode.
The cd players are connected with audio cables to line 1 and 2 of the mixer DN-x1600.
Everything works, except my loop recorder.

I've put the inputs in traktor scratch pro 2 this way:
channel A: input 1&2
channel B: input 3&4
Input FX: input 7&8

Unfortunately, my looping deck doesn't record anything.

Where did I made a mistake??

Thanks for helping!
 
Seven
wrote on December 24, 2011 at 18:30
Deadly acucrate answer. You've hit the bullseye!
 
meow
wrote on January 3, 2012 at 06:36
help!!! how to use fx from traktor pro 2 into xone 92
send /return

i don't understand how to route it
i want to use send /returns from the mixer
with only virtual efx or delays or whatever not hardware
if not how to use ableton fx into xone 92

it's confusing

am runing
macbook pro 15 inch
kontrol x1
audio 10 dj
xone 92

and all the cables desired for this mixer
so the sends of 92 are outputs that need to go into the w/e a/b/c/d idk wich one maybe d inputs of the aud
 
Emberlynn
wrote on January 29, 2012 at 21:46
When you think about it, that's got to be the right ansewr.
 
Miguel
wrote on August 15, 2012 at 16:09
Any idea on how to use traktor loop recorder with A&H DB4 (this mixer has loop recorder but only up to 4 bars) keeping simultaneously in the external mixer:
2 track decks (controlled with X1),
1 remix deck ( controlled with F1)
Maschine
and the ability to send the mix for the traktor recorder (to record the mix done with DB4)

Any help would be very much appreciated since I am just close to buy a DB4.

Many thanks
MC
 
charly
wrote on January 23, 2014 at 20:46
Hallo, ganz gute Beschreibung, wie stelle ich das ganze an, wenn ich keine externe Soundcard verwende sondern zb einen DJM 850 mit Soundcard.

danke
 

 

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